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Rossi Sues IH, Darden, Vaughn, IPH & Cherokee Investment Partners – Updated

April 7, 2016

Update with IH Press Release Below

Original Post:

Rossi continues to surprise. Is he a genius destined to save the world, mentally ill or an old fraud with balls the size of a planet?

According to the complaint, Rossi did everything asked of him. A final payment of $89,000,000 should have followed publication of a report detailing a successful year-long run of a 1MW eCat. Rossi charges that Darden, Vaughn, IPH & Cherokee Investment Partners have:

“…meticulously and systematically defrauded ROSSI in an effort to misappropriate Plaintiffs’ intellectual property rights in the E-Cat IP.”

At last, through the suit, we get some meat on the bones of this saga. When reading the document, however, remember that we are ‘hearing’ the story according to Rossi without the counter argument from IH and Co. One might assume that certain asserted ‘facts’ are genuine or approximate truths. Thus we learn that:

The relationship leading to their agreement started in 2012,

IH was granted a licence for North, South and Central America, The Caribbean, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and Arabian Emirates.

Total payment for the licence was to be $100,500,000 over three stages.

$1,500,000 was to be paid on execution of the agreement

$10,000,000 to be paid after successful completion of a 24 hour validation test by an ‘independent expert’ (termed expert responsible for validation or ERV)

$89,000,000 to be paid after successful completion of a 350 day performance test to be carried out by the ERV or another independent expert agreed by the parties.

Central to the suit is the license agreement. Rossi is suing on 8 counts.

The document detailing the suit should be read with reference to the agreement and not to our own judgement of Rossi’s character or to the worth of his eCat claims. In my inexpert opinion, filing for a trial by jury increases Rossi’s chance of winning irrespective of any future eCat success or failure.

By citing Cherokee as well as IH, IHP and the individuals involved, he is exposing them to potentially damaging publicity. The complexity of this case should not be underestimated. Like it or not, Rossi has credible scientists documented as backing his claims. He has multiple reports of apparent ‘independent’ tests conducted over extensive periods of time – all supporting the eCat’s performance claims. It appears that IH paid out the 1st and 2nd installments. It could be inferred that they were therefore happy with the results of the 24 hour test and recognised the ERV as qualified to conduct it. Otherwise, why would they pay the $10,000,000? Clearly, something happened between that point and now to spoil the water.

Rossi, it seems, has a healthy war chest. He is squaring up to serious money on the other side of the ring. In the centre is a quagmire of complexity where proof-of-eCat is subordinate to the letter of the law in relation to the details in the contract.

Is this a master-stroke by Rossi or a desperate move to head off a potential attack by multiple parties?

If this case makes it to court, it will be interesting to hear IH’s side of the story. However, I doubt Cherokee, Darden or Vaughn will welcome the damage such a messy scuffle will likely cause them – even if they win their case. Nothing can be taken for granted, including a quiet settlement in favour of Rossi and an information vacuum thereafter.

Few here would argue that they do not have a case. It is easy to attack Rossi and his many broken promises and he has his share of public documentation refuting his claims. A good example of this lies in the recent rejection of one of his US Patents. The following statement is quite damning and goes to the heart of the reality of this whole affair:

“The affidavit filed by the inventor on 12 Jun 2015 is acknowledged, however the arguments of the affidavit are not persuasive. Applicant avers that the two submitted papers demonstrate independent confirmation of the device operability. Examiner respectfully disagrees.”

It is worth reading the rejection in the context of the suit. Common sense might argue that Rossi has never provided truly independent proof of his claims. Even so, despite an army of scientists that would rightfully scoff at his assertions, few can lay claim to first-hand communion with an eCat and none to the extent that the Swedes, the ERV and other ‘experts’  in his circle can. The USPTO rejection helps IH should they defend themselves by claiming they do not think the test was independent but will that be enough? The USPTO offers no more than an opinion while Rossi has apparently substantive reports from those who – unlike the USPTO – have actually tested the thing.

IH et al have an uphill battle. It does not help that they were apparently happy with the ERV at stage 2, that they seem to have helped convince others to invest (Woodford?) or that they made public pronouncements supporting Rossi and claimed to have performed due diligence.

All of this points to a protracted and embarrassing court-case that could ultimately harm the business interests of those involved (including, indirectly, Woodford). Is there a line where such harm will cost far more than a few million to settle out of court?

Perhaps the defendants will surprise us and deliver a blow we have yet to see coming. At this point it is difficult to tell if this story is going to explode or fade to a whimper.

I look forward to reading your thoughts.

ETA – Please note that my position has not changed. I do not trust or believe Rossi has what he says. He has created a shield with the reputations of others and that will help his legal case. He may lose but it will not be the simple trial many sceptics believe should follow – particularly where a non-scientific jury is concerned. I observe this merely to wonder if the resultant reputational risk could be enough to induce an out of court settlement.


Press release from Industrial Heat:

Industrial Heat Statement on Meritless Litigation from Leonardo Corporation and Andrea Rossi
15:15 ET from Industrial Heat, LLC

RESEARCH TRIANGLE, N.C., April 7, 2016 /PRNewswire/ — We are aware of the lawsuit filed by Andrea Rossi and Leonardo Corporation against Industrial Heat. Industrial Heat rejects the claims in the suit. They are without merit and we are prepared to vigorously defend ourselves against this action. Industrial Heat has worked for over three years to substantiate the results claimed by Mr. Rossi from the E-Cat technology – all without success. Leonardo Corporation and Mr. Rossi also have repeatedly breached their agreements. At the conclusion of these proceedings we are confident that the claims of Mr. Rossi and Leonardo Corporation will be rejected.

Industrial Heat continues to be focused on a scientifically rigorous approach that includes thorough, robust and accurate testing of promising LENR technologies. Our goal remains to deliver clean, safe and affordable energy.

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2,286 Responses to Rossi Sues IH, Darden, Vaughn, IPH & Cherokee Investment Partners – Updated

  1. Mary Yugo

    July 13, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    Oh, Gak! Below is a perfect example of the harm all the fuss around Rossi and Brillouin causes. A tribe of native Americans is preparing to spend money to build prototype houses which will be powered and heated by Brillouin non-existent boilers. The article below echos all the bullshit around LENR starting with the Rossifiction:

    • Linkin Rowed

      July 13, 2016 at 7:02 pm

      Wow! Native Americans get screwed again!? Anybody shocked by this?

      Maybe IH could sell them a slightly used 1 MW E-Cat (only used for less than a year).

      M.Y., should we tell them the truth (as if they would listen) or just let them waste their time and money on this obvious nonsense? Your call.

      When things go wrong, Brillouin can sue the Sioux (he, he, he!).

      • Mary Yugo

        July 14, 2016 at 1:31 am

        You can write a calm response if you wish, to the article… you need some sort of sign on name and password and so far, I have not had time to figure out how to get on there and write an answer. And no, it won’t do the slightest bit of good. The well meaning native Americans are going to spend their money looking for cold fusion or whatever it is Brillouin says their silly machine is and does.

        Remember, these are the classy people who issued a diagram several years ago with “hyrogen” and “pluse”(pulse) misspelled. It took two years to get it corrected. And even now, it is STILL wrong on PESN.COM. Now, THAT is CLASS!–Understanding_How_LENR_Works_Will_Enable_Us_to_Be_First/

        • Linkin Rowed

          July 14, 2016 at 1:35 pm


          It looks like the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe plans to ask Uncle Sam for the money for their nutty LENR project. They are seeking funds from the Energy Department (DOE) and the Agriculture Department (USDA). Good luck with that, because DOE and USDA would be laughingstocks if they provided even a dime of funding for this utter nonsense.

          The Tribe may still waste a lot of time and money on this, so if you agree I will send an email to them to explain just how preposterous and physically impossible the Brillouin nonsense really is. That probably won’t do any good either, but at least we could say we tried.

          • Mary Yugo

            July 14, 2016 at 6:29 pm

            You don’t need my agreement but sure, give it a try!

    • Linkin Rowed

      July 13, 2016 at 8:04 pm


      Rossi’s priceless delusional take on this subject:

      July 12, 2016 at 7:01 PM
      Dr Andrea Rossi,
      You have a very noble supporters: the glorious Tribe of the Sioux :
      Congratulations, this is an important achievement.

      Andrea Rossi
      July 13, 2016 at 8:39 AM
      This is very interesting: I am deeply honoured of the attention to our work from this noble People.
      Warm Regards,

      What a dope!

  2. Mary Yugo

    July 13, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    duplicate post, sorry

  3. Linkin Rowed

    July 13, 2016 at 7:43 pm

    Good old Jed Rothwell (aka the “LENR Librarian”) must be getting really tired of being Butt Sniffer’s whipping boy. From LENR Forum:

    I mean, I don’t actually know Sifferkoll is an agent of Rossi. I don’t know if he accepted $100,000 and a promise of $1 million more. I mean, it could be true, but how would I know? No one has told me it isn’t true. And it is written right here in the Internet, where many things are true after all. So maybe, who knows, maybe it is true after all? It’s one of these things that might be true or it might not be true, and there’s just no telling, but where there is smoke there is fire, and he seems suspicious, and if he did take the money that would explain everything, wouldn’t it?

    Even Rossi wouldn’t be stupid enough to pay a mentally retarded person like Butt Sniffer that kind of money. I mean really, who would pay Butt Sniffer $100K to do anything? Rossi cheaps out on everything (the “Factory” that was a cheap warehouse in Doral, the “Customer” who was his own business partner, the “ERV” who was Rossi’s stooge, the “Silver Law” lawyers who couldn’t find their own butts with both hands and a flashlight, etc.). Rossi’s wife’s engagement ring is probably a CZ instead of a diamond. Why would Rossi spend that much money on an imbecile like Butt Sniffer? If he wanted to hire a decent attack weasel, then he could have contacted a reputable PR firm. Instead, he hired Butt Sniffer to be his cheapo version of APCO Worldwide. Gee, I wonder who will win that contest? One of the world’s largest and best PR firms v. a delusional moron and self-anointed “entertainer.” Butt Sniffer is about as entertaining as a bleeding hemorrhoid.

    Neither Jed nor Butt Sniffer knows anything about nuclear physics, so this is like watching two blind mice fight over a rotten piece of cheese. And sadly for Butt Sniffer, neither one of them can “look in the mirror.”

    • Pweet

      July 14, 2016 at 4:32 am

      I don’t think you need to know much about nucular fizziks to see that Mr Rossi is selling bovine excrement. All you need is a basic understanding of human nature and how it reacts to various situations and incentives. Mr Rossi knows it well and he is using it to his advantage. Although, he seems to have made a serious miscalculation in regards to managing IH recently. He must have believed them to be more gullible than they actually are. I think IH coughing up 11 million dollars for an electric water heater may have established that belief.
      A knowledge of nuclear physics is useful as a backstop against his pseudo scientific theories of operation, but since we never get to see anything actually operating, then we really don’t need a scientific explanation of why it isn’t working. We can see it isn’t. Almost everybody should be able to recognize bovine excrement, even from a long distance, without doing any nuclear analysis on it at all. It should be obvious to all because after five years of nothing, coming on a background of promising the world, logically, the whole scenario stinks of something bovine, and it has done for a long time.

      • tony2

        July 14, 2016 at 1:59 pm

        What Pweet said!


      • Linkin Rowed

        July 14, 2016 at 3:29 pm


        I too agree with your analysis, but I do think that “the LENR” is the crux of Rossi’s E-Cat scam. It’s his “hook” so that anyone who is gullible and ignorant enough to believe his LENR lies would probably buy the rest of his scam as well.

        The pathetic state of LENR is such that an Italian ex-con with no formal training in physics could dominate the entire field for eight years and ignore the old LENR pantheon (Storms, McKubre, Hagelstein, Miley, Larsen, etc.). In fact, the old-timers initially supported Rossi because they felt compelled to support anything that claimed to be “LENR.” If it’s “LENR” then they’re for it.

        It’s so bad that if I type in “LENR” in Yahoo, the first suggestion that appears is “LENR Rossi.” How did a fraudster like Rossi achieve this? Well, he claimed that he had invented a high-powered LENR device, which none of the other LENR turds ever did. Then he fooled some gullible profs and staged some lame dog and pony shows, and the rest is history.

        Tom Darden of IH was convinced by Rossi’s bogus “transmutation results.” That pretty much says it all for the sorry state of STEM education in the USA.

    • tyy

      July 14, 2016 at 7:44 am

      Sniffy probably is just fascinated by his “proprietary algos” that work so well in digging the hidden truth from Big Data.

      Rossi doesn’t have to pay him, he works for him anyways . And is more loyal than if we was payed.

      I may be wrong. Maybe Sniffie is a genius who just plays a retard and plays it well.

  4. Linkin Rowed

    July 13, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    I did a little opposition research on Butt Sniffer, or as he likes to call it, “counterstrike.” Torkel and his main squeeze Therese Bullwinkle (or is it Birnstingl?) are two really sick puppies:

    For all of you who thought that Butt Sniffer was crazy as hell, well you were right. He has Asperger’s Syndrome and ADD. This is almost enough to make me feel sorry for him, but not sorry enough to keep me from ratting him out to the Swedish authorities. Poor bastard. Maybe he’d be better off in a mental institution than in a prison. BTW, it’s really sweet of Rossi to hire the mentally handicapped.

    • Pweet

      July 14, 2016 at 4:42 am

      Amusing as it might be to think otherwise, I really don’t think Rossi needs to ‘hire’ people like Torkel. They just sort of ’emerge’ out of the woodwork to promote their beliefs in much the same way as the skeptics do. Nobody hires those to speak for, and nobody pays those to speak against.
      I’m assuming nobody is paying Linkin R. and M.Y. etc. If they are, where do I apply for a grant? Am I missing out? Is the budget spent already?

      • tyy

        July 14, 2016 at 7:48 am

        I want to know too. Where can I apply for my monthly ranting fee?

        • Linkin Rowed

          July 15, 2016 at 4:31 pm

          I can assure you that no one is paying me anything for my comments. I’m just in it for the laughs and to pay back that enormous asshole Rossi for all he’s done for me.

          If you would like to get paid for your bon mots, then I would suggest you contact IH shareholder and LENR Forum legend Dewey Weaver. He could surely use some help fending off the LENR loons and Rossiphile idiots. His email address is on LENR Forum, so you could contact Dewey directly.

          As for Rossi paying Butt Sniffer, the Florida authorities are already “following the money.” We shall see. Butt Sniffer is enough of a loon anyway, so he should really be in the big house or in the nut house.

          • tyy

            July 15, 2016 at 10:00 pm

            I would never, ever, do anything as ridiculous as this for money.

            I work for real.

            But for laughs. Why not.

    • maxs

      July 14, 2016 at 8:55 am

      That surely explains it:

      When you meet someone who has Asperger’s syndrome, you might notice two things right off. He’s just as smart as other folks, but he has more trouble with social skills. He also tends to have an obsessive focus on one topic or perform the same behaviors again and again.


      • Linkin Rowed

        July 14, 2016 at 1:53 pm


        I think you hit the nail right on its crazy head. Butt Sniffer is a LENR lover. In his case, it’s like a 12-year-old boy who’s in love with Kate Upton. He’s infatuated with the concept, but doesn’t understand how anything works.

        According to the article, Butt Sniffer and his girlfriend also enjoy “self-medicating” with drugs and alcohol, which really explains a lot. He probably has two functioning brain cells left that only talk to each other on weekends. His lame attempts at drug and alcohol humor are reflections from his own miserable life.

        Not the ideal profile for an attack weasel, is it?

  5. Mary Yugo

    July 13, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    July 11, 2016 at 8:04 PM
    Mr Andrea Rossi,
    still going well the work with the QuarK ?

    No American or English speaker writes like that. Which brings me to ask:

    Still going well the writing to yourself, Rossi?

    • Linkin Rowed

      July 13, 2016 at 11:12 pm

      And every freakin’ day, it’s “still very promising.” At least his insanity is consistent.

    • Pweet

      July 14, 2016 at 4:59 am

      He must be really busy going on that short post. Too busy to write a long post on how bad IH are. A few days ago I think he wrote quite a long missive to his own blog, and then answered it. I love the way he writes something he says he can’t comment on and then thanks himself for his insight, or says he can’t comment. Haw haw haaaaaw.
      It’s this that makes me think he is not hiring anybody to promote his circus. If he was, the first thing he should be doing is to hire someone to contribute the posts he has to write himself to his blog.
      Oh well, times are tough I suppose, and the money has to be allocated sparingly.
      Anyway, it’s just great to know the QuackEcat is still very promising. Although from earlier posts I thought we would be in the ‘massive production’ phase by now because he did say that people would be surprised about how fast this will all occur.
      So far, I’m not at all surprised. I was expecting nothing but promises, and surprise surprise!, we still have nothing but promises. Oh well, at least we’re not going backwards. Or are we? Perhaps we are. I can see all the old sign posts I saw three years ago. Ok, backwards it is then.

      • tony2

        July 14, 2016 at 2:14 pm


        Not going backwards. The con men call it a “reset” (or if you’re really cool, a “reboot”).

        This is why I am so sure that he’ll drop the suit once he gets what he needs out of it which is for everybody involved to be gagged. Once he gets that, the scam is brandy new with the QuarkX and he’ll get at least 5 more years out of it.

        Don’t think for a minute that there aren’t already a new bunch of suckers that have been shown the “ERV report” and are being spoon fed the story that IH was looking all along to steal the IP for the ecat. My guess is that he’ll hook the new fish for an even bigger payday than the 11 mil (he knew all along he was never going to get the 89 mil since the ecat is a fake) but this time we’ll never know who the new “partner” is. He’s going to keep up with the nonsense about the Swedish robotic factory and there will undoubtedly be another lengthy “indipendent” test (the believers will posit that it’s being done at one of the Sioux Nation casinos) which will be followed with breathless anticipation of the new report.

        AR has to drop the suit. Unless he really is crazy, he knows he has a fake and that any court case is eventually going to get around to him having to prove the ecat to folks who are qualified and not associated with him in any way, shape, or form. He’ll be cooked. Trying to come to an agreement with IH to simply shut them up is by far the easiest road to take and, if I’m IH, I just want this freaking nightmare of stupidity and deception to simply go away where nobody can ever learn the whole story.


  6. tony2

    July 14, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    If this isn’t Il Douche writing and answering to himself, then I’ll be dipped.

    July 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM
    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    I work in a company that makes polls. I think you will be glad to know that 80% of the people interested to this story has a positive opinion of you, 20% negative.

    “Andrea Rossi
    July 13, 2016 at 2:07 PM
    Honestly, I do not think it is important. I think what is important is our work and the results it will be able to realize.
    Warm Regards,

    So Wendy “makes” polls, eh?


    • Mary Yugo

      July 14, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      English speakers don’t “make” polls and they aren’t “people interested TO this story.” But ItaliaEngrish would cover that. Or Englitalian.

      • Linkin Rowed

        July 14, 2016 at 5:31 pm

        Tony and M.Y.,

        The hallmark of a pathological liar is lying for no apparent reason. For example, this “make polls” lie does nothing to help Rossi or his pathetic case, but maybe it made him feel better about himself. All the preposterous “nickel transmutation” bullshit falls into the same category. If his current LENR lie is “proton-lithium-7 fusion” and the nickel is supposed to be “just a catalyst,” then why is he mucking up his basic lie with a completely irrelevant set of lies?? Only the Wizard of Miami knows for sure.

    • Pweet

      July 15, 2016 at 4:08 am

      It depends on where Wendy ‘made the poll’. And maybe she has some Italian heritage. An Italian great Grandfather maybe? Syntax can be hereditary I think. (well not really.)
      Anyway, I think the numbers look about right if she made it on ECW. There are probably only 20% of people there who have a nagging doubt about Mr Rossi. The rest are still spitting chips about how mean and nasty IH is.

      It’s as the Pink Floyd song goes, (Time- Dark side of the Moon) ;-
      “Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines.
      Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
      The time is gone, the song is over,
      Thought I’d something more to say.”
      Gee, how appropriate. Thanks Pink.
      Aahhh the days of really great music ,.. they’re all gone.

      • tony2

        July 15, 2016 at 1:23 pm


        Back in college, lo these many years ago, I had the choice to either go to a Carnegie-Mellon frat thing or go to the old concert venue in Pittsburgh, the Syria Mosque, to hear Pink Floyd. This would have been late summer of 1972.

        The Mosque was a nice place to hear concerts. 4 levels, IIRC (the Pittsburgh Symphony used to play there) and good acoustics.

        Very few people were at the concert. Every level was ringed with big speakers and my buddy and I were wondering what was going on.

        The band came out and played “Dark Side of the Moon” in it’s entirety! We knew they had a new record coming out and this was it. The big speakers on every floor were part of a quadraphonic set-up. I think they did “Be Careful with that Ax, Eugene” as an encore. Probably the best concert I ever attended!


        PS – I can’t be sure but I think I smelled marijuana in the hall!

        • Pweet

          July 15, 2016 at 2:44 pm

          “Back in college, lo these many years ago, I had the choice to either go to a Carnegie-Mellon frat thing or go to the old concert venue in Pittsburgh, the Syria Mosque, to hear Pink Floyd. This would have been late summer of 1972.”
          So you’ve always been smart then. Good choice!
          So many would have chosen the frat thing.

  7. Linkin Rowed

    July 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    More pathological lying today from the Wizard of Miami:

    July 15, 2016 at 1:52 AM
    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Are you still working on 200 patents ?

    Andrea Rossi
    July 15, 2016 at 8:39 AM
    No, I eliminated many, because I changed idea and consolidated many others, so that now I am working on circa 100 patents, most of which I hope will get the allowance.
    Warm Regards,

    Now, who thinks that “Wess” is really Rossi??

    Rossi is a little sensitive on this subject because everyone laughed at him when he claimed to be working on hundreds of patents just a few months ago. So what is the right answer?? Something that the faithful might believe and that wouldn’t produce too much ridicule from the skeptics? Well, that answer is “circa 100.” What a dope!!

    This is the perfect lie for Rossi because it sounds impressive, no one can disprove it, and it makes him feel like a real inventor instead of the scumbag fraudster that he really is.

    That will show those IH morons that Rossi is a Great Inventor! They double-crossed the wrong dude!

    • Pweet

      July 16, 2016 at 7:24 am

      200 patent applications eh? Now down to 100. 🙂

      It looks like every component must be covered by a separate patent.
      Item 88. 4mm metric screw . . . . .Patent app # 1606472
      Item 89. 4mm nut to suit item 88 Patent app #1606473
      Item 90. 4mm washer to suit items 88 & 89 Patent app 1606474
      Mr Rossi si a very meticulous man.
      Good work Andrea. Make sure all the important stuff is well covered by rigid patents.
      Don’t worry about all the trivia though, like the secret sauce and all the other tricky stuff. None of that is important because you can just make that stuff up as you go along.
      In any case, it will all be different next month after people explain to you why it can’t possibly work that way.
      Oh well. Nobody is perfect.

      • MaxS

        July 17, 2016 at 2:26 pm

        LOL. I guess this how the genius counts patents:
        1 patent family application in 50 countries = 50 “patents”

  8. Linkin Rowed

    July 16, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    Here is a “crime and punishment” story that is eerily similar to Rossi’s E-Cat fraud:

    This fraudster claimed to be an undercover CIA operative. The judge called his story “not just implausible but beyond incredible,” and the State Department called it “a comical fantasy.” Sure sounds like Rossi to me. Quarkie, anyone?

    Wayne Simmons fooled Fox News, Donald Rumsfeld, and some woman who gave him $125K for a bogus real estate “investment.” He still claims to be “a former CIA agent.” Another classic case of delusional disorder.

    All fraudsters rely on misplaced trust and on their victims’ willingness and need to believe. So I guess in some ways, all frauds and fraudsters are really the same.

    I just can’t wait to get to the “punishment” phase of Rossi’s pathetic story.

    • Tony2

      July 17, 2016 at 9:27 pm


      You win. He is out of his motherfucking mind.


      Sorry for the profanity but if not here, where? If not now, when? If not in regards to The Divine Comedian, then who?

  9. Linkin Rowed

    July 16, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    Rossi is just a constant source of laughs. Today we have Andrea Rossi, keeper of “the LENR” flame:

    Lauren Hallgren
    July 16, 2016 at 2:07 AM
    Dr Andrea Rossi,
    Clearly in this moment you have the world leadership in the LENR field and you have a great responsibility for this. The succes [sic] of your plants will have a huge repercussion on the world economy, as well as a failure will have a terrible effect on all the LENR field. How are you confronting yourself with this responsibility ?

    Andrea Rossi
    July 16, 2016 at 10:47 AM
    Lauren Hallgren:
    Working and studying as much and strongly as possible with my great team.
    Warm Regards,

    What a moron!! Failure is inevitable for this delusional dope and his “great team.” What will happen to “the LENR” then? And what would happen if Rossi actually “confronted himself” and realized what a low-life fraudster he really is?

  10. Linkin Rowed

    July 17, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    Rossi is a psychiatrist’s dream. Is this drivel enough to get him committed to the nut house instead of the big house? A judge will have to decide.

    Andrea Rossi
    July 16, 2016 at 9:10 PM
    Tom Conover:
    Thank you for this very interesting comment, but you did not put the “table below” with the isotopical [sic] transmutations obtained in your experiment to replicate, very intelligently, the effect from my patent! Please send it, or write in a comment the isotopes before and after your experiments.
    About your citation of the Bible and the reference to the lions, I have to say something.
    Today I was studying a book of physics and bumped in a citation, along an excursus in a note below, to Dr J.Craig Venter, considered very important because discovered the way to make a biological cell in 2010, a cell able to reproduce itself and therefore considerable a form of life. Triumphalistically this fact has been presented as an evidence of the lack of necessity of vitalism and, in last analysis, of the assumption of a creative act, presumptively giving also final evidence of the fact that only biological evolution is at the fundament of life, from amebas up to humans.
    This assumption is anti-scientific and in contrast with basic mathematical laws. The matter of the fact is that Dr Venter made this protocell using an extremely sophysticated [sic] laboratory and an extremely sophysticated [sic] scientific know how: to assert that the fact that Dr Venter has been able to make a biological cell should give evidence of the fact that life can have been generated by casual natural events, while eventually evolution has generated an Albert Einstein, is as much paradoxical as to assert that the fact that Dante Alighieri has written the Divine Comedy gives evidence of the fact that pouring randomly black ink billions of times upon a mass of papers, sooner or later will spontaneously make you find written something like the Divine Comedy of Dante Alighieri.
    And now to the Lions: here is evidence ( real evidence) of the unsustainability of a universal evolution, wherein by “universal evolution” I mean the concept of evolution that sustains that the path from an ameba to a human is just a matter of evolution, while specific evolution is the transformation of specific beings in time to make them more fit for the environment they have to survive in. This last kind of evolution, the specific evolution, clearly works, it has been given evidence of from Darwin and it is convincing. The Universal concept of the evolution, that makes it a sort of ” deus ex machina” is barred by the mathematical structure of the probability calculus. Here is why: in the Earth have been born tens of thousands of different living beings: TENS OF THOUSANDS !!!
    I mean: lions for example, as all the other living beings, had at their disposal the same timespan of humans to evolve, but they remained, as all the other living beings, what they were millions of years ago. Now : on the base of a probability mathematical calculus, if casual evolution is the engine of the transformation of a living being from a brutal brain to a brain able to make the music of Beethoven, how much are the probabilities that among tens of thousands of living beings, in [sic] the same planet, in the same timespan, in analogous environment, with the same competition necessities at the start, ONLY ONE of such living beings is able to evolve from a monkey to an Einstein or a Beethoven ? The probabilities are one divided by tens of thousands.
    The universal evolution is anti-scientific because mathematical unsustainable. Specific evolution, on the contrary, is perfectly fit.
    To reinforce what I am saying, here is further evidence: the specific evolution, which, as we said, consists in the mutations of secondary chracteristics [sic] to make the being more fit to survive, has been clearly operating in ALL the living beings: during millions of years of evolution lions have modified their secondary characteristics, as well as all the living beings, so: why only their brains did not evolve substantially, as it happened for the humans? Clearly evolution made well its job, it made what it could and for the secondary characteristics the mathematical structure of the calculus of the probabilities suits perfectly. Why not for the brain ?
    Thank you for your very interesting comment and for the link of the lions that allowed me to discharge to earth the rage I got reading that trumphalistic [sic, although I really like this if it refers to Donald Trump] stupidity.
    Warm regards,

    Rossi is a raving lunatic! God help “the LENR” because it’s been hijacked by a maniac!

    • tyy

      July 17, 2016 at 8:21 pm

      Slow down, Fred.

      • Linkin Rowed

        July 17, 2016 at 10:55 pm


        It just keeps getting better:

        Hal Roth
        July 17, 2016 at 3:06 PM
        Dear Dr Andrea Rossi:
        Thank you for your fantastic insight about evolutionism. It is a comment from which we can also understand the thickness of your culture and the creative intelligence you take advantage of it. I have been stunned from your mathematical considerations regarding the absurdity of what you call the general evolutionism. I never heard before such considerations, but they make a strong point.
        No doubt that LENR have found the right man, or, perhaps, the right man has found the LENR at the right time.

        “Hal” is yet another (“Godspeed”) Rossi sock puppet. I had no idea that Rossi is such a polymath. A LENR genius AND an expert on evolution. Rossi has convinced me that he belongs in a mental institution, although one could make the argument that he belongs in the slammer (again). His “ideas” on “evolutionism” are almost as profoundly ignorant and delusional as his LENR ideas.

        “The thickness of your culture”?? What is this culture exactly, spaghetti sauce? Pasta fazool? Yogurt?

        I suppose Rossi would have to have some “creative intelligence” to fabricate all his lies about “the LENR” and to falsify his E-Cat results, although his phony “results” don’t even rise to the high school prank level. Rossi reminds me of Jon Lovitz’s”pathological liar” character from SNL:

        Rossi gets entangled in his own lies so often it’s pathetic (and hilarious). He should heed Mark Twain’s sage advice: “If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.”

    • Tony2

      July 17, 2016 at 9:31 pm


      I meant my above post to this one!


      • Linkin Rowed

        July 17, 2016 at 10:57 pm


        I know, right? He’s crazy as hell! You owe me five bucks.

        • JohnP

          July 18, 2016 at 7:16 pm

          I have it from a reliable source that the Ark, recently unveiled in Kentucky, will be powered by Ecats. I’m very relieved to know that the dinosaurs in there will be safe and cozy.

  11. Andy Kumar

    July 17, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    “allowed me to discharge to earth the rage”
    Is Rossi peeing again, defiling Mother Earth.

    • Linkin Rowed

      July 17, 2016 at 10:58 pm


      I think he meant that he was all charged up. Maybe he had three Quarkies up his butt.

  12. quax

    July 18, 2016 at 3:45 am

    Since this site is shutting down again, and Popeye asked, I am again providing an alternative venue.

    Please play nice and don’t make me regret it.

    • Mary Yugo

      July 18, 2016 at 6:57 am

      Thanks but “leave a comment” returns a 404 error.

      • quax

        July 19, 2016 at 12:14 am

        Thanks for pointing this out. Site has been in stasis for a while. Seems to be working now after I fumbled around with it a bit.

  13. tony2

    July 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    I just love how things are just made up over at the nuthouse and accepted as absolute truths. This guy apparently has it all figured out.

    “Rene Thomas Kaminski • 9 hours ago
    Remember too, that those big e-cats can sometimes fall out of SSM briefly. You need multiple ones to handle the loss of one of them. Also, the e-cat reaction is temperature sensitive so the quickest way to adjust that is having some water around them to adjust their temperature.”

    “Yep (as the grizzled old time LENR boiler tech spits out the chaw on the floor of the ecat container)those big ecats were a handful, all right! Lucky the Quark came about and we could get rid of the big ones. Hell, I got more space now in this container than I do in my house!”


    • Pweet

      July 20, 2016 at 6:39 am

      Quote from above;-
      “Remember too, that those big e-cats can sometimes fall out of SSM briefly”
      That’s really funny. Sooo,.. they fall out of ssm briefly do they?
      Really? and how am I supposed to ‘remember’ that when I’m still in total disbelief that one ever worked in the first place?

      • tony2

        July 20, 2016 at 1:47 pm


        Crazy, huh? They simply make stuff up and then yap it out like it’s Gospel truth. That just kills me.

        And the statement you highlight is perfect because it points out the single biggest problem with the whole farce and the one that would provide the easiest pathway towards proving the ecat is real.

        If anything out there is producing in any way, shape, or form more energy that is going in, then that excess energy can be corralled to create the self sustaining loop that would end only when the fuel is exhausted. In the first iteration, we were told that heat was needed to control the reaction (a first order lie since you’d be hard pressed to find any excess heat producing reaction that needs even more heat to bring it under control) but that is was not possible to take that excess heat and feed it back into the ecat to run in “SSM” indefinitely. This was pointed out here immediately and in great detail and yet AR still chugged along.

        (The fact that the demo in Italy where an excess of some 400KW was calculated while a 480 KW diesel generator was running in the parking lot should have been enough to kill the ecat but since it didn’t, we’re only left to assume that people are far, far dumber than even plants.)

        Now we have the QuarkX that can do heat; light; and electricity directly and it is STILL impossible to to run the device uncoupled from any external power source. How can this be? We know it can be because there isn’t; never was; or ever will be any overunity energy device brought to market by Il Douche. Other folks just can’t seem to see it. If he actually squirms his way out of the present fiasco and attracts new investors then we are in far worse trouble as a species than I ever imagined.


  14. Linkin Rowed

    July 18, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    Another Florida fraudster bites the dust:

    This guy fleeced his victims out of millions of $ and only got 27 months in the slammer and “appropriate mental health treatment.” Maybe Rossi should just confess and do the time. He could do 27 months standing on his head after the hard time he did in Italy.

  15. NTAK

    July 19, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    Hey all,

    It’s been awhile since I was here last… and I just stopped by to see where I can buy me a Rossi E-cat.

    I had to go to Lowes yesterday and purchase some LED light bulbs, and while I was there I looked around for those Rossi E-cat’s, and I didn’t see any… Sup wit dat?

    • Mary Yugo

      July 19, 2016 at 11:25 pm

      All the ones they had have been recalled to make room for the brand new and vastly superior QuarkX, coming to your neighborhood store SooN.

    • Pweet

      July 20, 2016 at 6:45 am

      Maaaaate,.. ya too late. They all sold like hot cakes! Just walked out the door! The salesmen had to call in security to stop the riots! It was just like the Cabbage Patch dolls all over again! Ya shouda seen it!
      It’s all true, and I know it is because I just made it up.

    • Frank

      July 20, 2016 at 7:29 am

      NTAK, you went into the wrong store!

      Since the latest evolution of Rossi’s magic devices – the QuarkX – is of the size of a pencil (or a toothpick), they are not sold at Home Depot, but at Office Depot.
      Look for the shelfs with the batteries and flashlights – they keep them there, because the new QuarkX makes electricity and light too!

  16. The Big Con

    July 19, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    So an eCat you want to buy?
    A tricky proposition but why?
    For the ecat exists not
    Nothing but a scheming plot
    It is one great big huge lie

    To Walmart I went the other day
    Looking for an eCat for which I wished to pay
    But alas there were none to buy
    And I sat down and had a cry
    Lamenting in the eWig my load did I spray!

    • JKW

      July 20, 2016 at 3:06 am

      Out of meds again, Barky?

      • The Big Con

        July 20, 2016 at 10:38 pm

        I’m just bored. Waiting for the clown’s next circus in court. Hopefully he finds he gets an all expenses paid trip to 23916 NW 83rd Avenue, Raiford, FL 32026, United States

        • JKW

          July 20, 2016 at 11:43 pm

          I hear you. Barking, trolling, and then realizing it was up the wrong tree altogether. All you have left now is a wig. Godspeed, Roger.

          • The Big Con

            July 21, 2016 at 2:03 am

            Barking yes. Trolling yes. But never up the wrong tree. 🙂

  17. Linkin Rowed

    July 20, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    The judge has issued an order in response to IH’s motion to dismiss:

    Half the counts were dismissed without prejudice, but the trial will proceed. More laughs for everyone!

    Count I: Breach of Contract (Non-Payment) Intact
    Count II: Breach of Contract (Exceeding Scope of License) Dismissed
    Count III: Unjust Enrichment Intact
    Count IV: Misappropriaton [sic] of Trade Secrets Intact
    Count V: Civil Conspiracy to Misappropriate Trade Secrets Dismissed
    Count VI: Fraud and Deceit Intact
    Count VII: Constructive and Equitable Fraud Dismissed
    Count VIII: Patent Infringement Dismissed

    Less than three weeks ago, that legal scholar Frank Acland and the lunatic Butt Sniffer were claiming that the trial would proceed with all counts intact, merely because the judge had approved a trial schedule:

    At least the E-Cat true believer morons are getting a lesson in how the US legal system works. Well, maybe. We can always hope.

    So when if ever will Rossi’s Silver Law lawyers realize what a scumbag fraudster he really is?

    How long before IH files a countersuit?

    The beat goes on, and Rossi’s comical fantasy continues. Let the litigation games begin!

  18. Linkin Rowed

    July 20, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    So who’s the real “zero” in this scenario, Rossi or “Zero”? Maybe they’re both the same person!

    July 19, 2016 at 10:43 PM
    Dear Andrea Rossi:
    Can you give us an idea of your work during an average day ?
    Thank you if you can,

    Andrea Rossi
    July 20, 2016 at 8:52 AM
    from 6 a.m. to 7 a.m. I study Physics; from 7.30 a.m. to 5 p.m. I am working on the QuarkX in this period, updating also the work on the patents in preparation; from 5 p.m. to 7 I have to work on the papers of the litigation with IH, also meeting with my Attorney. From 7 to 8 p.m. I make exercise. This is my basic scheduling, obviously with the necessary variations when opportune.
    Warm Regards,

    I’m sure his schedule would be different in the big house or in the nut house. Maybe he would benefit from a nice basket weaving class.

    I have seen his work, and he should DEFINITELY spend a lot more time studying physics. And the loon spends over nine hours per day on the Magic Toothpick! Wow.

  19. Mary Yugo

    July 20, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    [quote]So when if ever will Rossi’s Silver Law lawyers realize what a scumbag fraudster he really is?[/quote]


    A lot of lawyers don’t care what scumbag fraudsters their clients are, as long as they get paid. If Rossi’s lawyers are working on contingency, at some point they may cut their losses but clearly, they aren’t there yet. Possibly Rossi is still bamboozling them. Or they see a purely legal way to beat IH apart from facts. Or Rossi is paying by the hour and they just don’t care.

    • Linkin Rowed

      July 20, 2016 at 5:57 pm


      The Silver Law lawyers have been dealing with Rossi for at least 4 months now. How long would it take to run a background check on Rossi, or to contact a few physics experts, or better yet, to figure out that Rossi is nuttier than a fruitcake??

      I agree with you on the finances, especially if Rossi is paying them by the hour. Rossi told Mats Lewan that he was prepared to spend “$1 million” on the IH litigation. The ironic and hilarious aspect is that Rossi wouldn’t have the $1 million if IH hadn’t given it to him! He’s suing them and paying for it with their money! Maybe he really is an evil genius. Sadly for Rossi, even $1 million won’t get him a judgment against IH. He really should be looking for a good criminal defense attorney.

  20. NTAK

    July 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    How many people really think they will ever own a (working) Rossi e-cat?

    My bet is that Rossi is using the lawsuit as an excuse from ever producing any products, and this was his plan all along. After all; he’s already won by scamming 11 million dollars.

  21. Linkin Rowed

    July 20, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    For those who are willing to wade through 25 pages of obscure legal arguments, here is the full text of the judge’s order:

    This entire case is predicated on a bald-faced lie. Check out this quote from p.1 of the judge’s order:

    “Plaintiff, Andrea Rossi (“Rossi”), invented a low-energy nuclear reactor, popularly known as the “Energy Catalyzer” or “E-Cat,” which produces energy at a cost well below traditional energy sources. (See Compl. ¶ 1).”


    • JKW

      July 21, 2016 at 3:03 am

      It will be up to IH to prove that Rossi is full of crap. They signed the contract, after all. I wonder how they are going to do so. Heating popcorn…

      • Linkin Rowed

        July 21, 2016 at 4:13 am

        Late last year or early this year, IH must have hired a consultant who actually knew what he was doing. That consultant must have given them incontrovertible proof that Rossi’s E-Cat didn’t work. If it had worked even a little bit (e.g., a “COP” of 1.1 or more), then IH would have hung in there. Why would they abandon the most miraculous technology of the century if it worked in any manner? Clearly, they decided not to pay Rossi the $89 million based on compelling proof that convinced both Darden and Vaughn that Rossi had nothing viable.

        Your point about IH signing the deal is a good one. Maybe Darden and Vaughn are reluctant to admit that they were ignorant and got scammed by Rossi. Who knows? If I were in IH’s position now, I would provide whatever evidence they have that the E-Cat doesn’t work and ask for summary judgment.

        • sifferkoll

          July 21, 2016 at 9:59 am

          You’re getting all worked up again Fred! You really should calm down a bit, take your lithium medication instead of that bottle … 🙂

        • Pweet

          July 21, 2016 at 12:18 pm

          Yes. Sooner or later IH will have to face up to it and admit they were conned big time. Not a good look when you’re in the business of raising capital from others and managing it for them. They would certainly be off my list of fund managers. I’m sure they would rather not admit to being conned, and I’m sure it will make a big problem for them in trying to explain why they were flogging off rights to it to other gullible fools while knowing it didn’t work. I suppose they might be able to twist the timeline a bit to make it look like they thought it all worked right up to the end, but that could be very difficult, and it will almost certainly limit whatever evidence they can produce to make the point that they couldn’t get anything to work.
          It won’t be very convincing if they say they only found out it didn’t work the day after they sold 100 million dollars of equity in it. If they did anything like this then it makes them no better than Doctor? Rossi.
          I am 100 percent convinced that Rossi knows full well that it doesn’t work, otherwise he would have done a re-run of one of the many failed tests, with the procedural faults repaired, but of course he has never done that and will not. That can only be because he is well aware that with the faults removed, his amazing invention will have a COP of one, and that makes it not so amazing at all. So as soon as he realises he is getting close to the point where there is a very good chance his fraud will be brought into the open he will dump the action against IH. I’m sure that will suit both of them. IH have already tried for that end but failed, due I think, to Rossi holding out for a cash settlement. Fat chance! The joke will be on him if it gathers so much momentum that it cannot be stopped. It will then proceed to an unhappy ending for him whether he likes it or not. That will be worth staying up late for.
          I don’t know how far away that point is. Some seem to think it has passed already. I hope so. This story really does need a ripping good ending to make it worth all the time I’ve wasted on it. A hanging would be nice but I don’t think they do that anymore.
          I wonder if the tv rights are available yet? It would make a ripping good yarn for a tv series.

        • sifferkoll

          July 22, 2016 at 12:20 pm

          Mad Dog Fred Zoepfl:

          I know all about you now, ass burger, and so does your boss.

          I know, I know. Wow! Why am I not worried? You are such an magnificent loser… Have you actually read the book? You might learn something.

          But, you really are the one with the drug problems, isn’t that so …?

          • Linkin Rowed

            July 22, 2016 at 1:50 pm

            You should be very worried.

          • sifferkoll

            July 22, 2016 at 2:02 pm

            Mad Dog Fred

            You should be very worried.

            Making threats again are we Freddie? Suits your profile…

          • Linkin Rowed

            July 22, 2016 at 2:14 pm

            All the drugs and alcohol you consumed probably destroyed the worry center in your brain, along with a lot of other stuff you could really use.

          • sifferkoll

            July 22, 2016 at 3:00 pm

            Brilliant comment Fred. Wow!

          • Linkin Rowed

            July 22, 2016 at 4:59 pm

            You just proved my point, Butt Sniffer. I am just amazed that Rossi didn’t fire your crazy ass now that he knows what an alcoholic druggie ass burger you really are. Well, I guess he has a lot of experience working with the mentally handicapped.

          • sifferkoll

            July 23, 2016 at 9:57 am

            alcoholic druggie ass

            That mirror is revealing … isn’t it Fred?

          • Linkin Rowed

            July 23, 2016 at 2:36 pm

            Butt Sniffer, even a drug-addled loser like you could do better than another one of your lame “look in the mirror” posts. Or maybe that is a reflection of just how few functioning brain cells you have left.

            You should ask yourself, when will that Mad Dog let go of this humiliating episode? I will answer that question for you: NEVER, dumbass!! It’s just way too good. Every time I think about your dopey book and your stoner life, I just laugh at you. Your credibility on this site is at absolute zero.

            I also wanted to thank you for giving me the opportunity to humiliate that lunatic Rossi in front of his own lawyers. What a joy that was. They must be so impressed with the quality of Rossi’s workforce.

            Whenever you post one of your dumbass comments here in “the dungeon,” I will provide a reference to your “magnum dopus,” perhaps with a comment like, “Druggies for the E-Cat.”

          • sifferkoll

            July 23, 2016 at 4:33 pm

            No problem Freddie, I’m happy if my life makes you feel good as well … However the mirror really do seem to upset you so I’m probably touching a nerve there … and to be honest you also seem a bit angry and unbalanced – a very nervous laugh it is – so the lunatic comment sort of suits your profile too … 😀

          • Linkin Rowed

            July 23, 2016 at 6:41 pm

            From the Swedish bestseller list:


            Two drugged-up and drunken dopes.

            Butt Sniffer, do you give all your many clients a copy of your book? That would be “full disclosure.”

          • sifferkoll

            July 24, 2016 at 7:55 am

            do you give all your many clients a copy of your book? That would be “full disclosure.”

            Actually I do. I’m often invited to give talks on the subject, allthough I dont always have the time.

            You’re showing your total ignorance about the subject Fred. Do you actually believe alcohol an drug abuse is a good combination with training (my drug of choice…) for marathons and triathlons? I have to confess though I enjoy one or two “recovery” beers after training though 😀

            I can only conclude you have totally lost your mind and are clutching for straws … and that drugs are obviously an interest of yours …

          • Linkin Rowed

            July 24, 2016 at 1:48 pm

            Now if they would only increase your lithium dosage, then maybe you could get over your irrational obsession with Rossi and “the LENR.” Do you really believe this delusional lunatic can produce “proton-lithium-7 fusion” with no emission of ionizing radiation and no residual radioactivity?? Your profound ignorance is just astounding, as we have already seen. And now Rossi claims to produce nuclear fusion in something that is the size of a hypodermic needle (you’re probably very familiar with those).

            Talk to your shrink about how Asperger’s Syndrome patients often “have an obsessive focus on one topic or perform the same behaviors again and again” (from You recall what Einstein said: “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” That’s your LENR lunacy in a nutshell, dopey. Maybe if your shrink increases your lithium dosage, then you could get over your irrational crush on Rossi and LENR. Or maybe a nice frontal lobotomy would help.

            Is there an English translation of your “magnum dopus”? If so, you should list it on like Mats Lewan does with his bullshit book. He even writes his own phony reviews, just like Rossi makes up questions and then answers them on his nutty blog. Two Swedish Meatballs! Maybe you and Mats could found the Swedish Fabulist Society.

            I’m sorry but I’m still laughing at an ignorant ex-stoner who thinks he can be an attack weasel for a delusional LENR lunatic. Still funny!

          • sifferkoll

            July 24, 2016 at 2:51 pm

            Maybe if your shrink increases your lithium dosage

            Wow! You obviously have no idea what you’re ranting about.

            However if I were your shrink I would subscribe lithium since it will probably do wonders for your anger management. Not to mention for all those people forced to hang around you when you have your tantrums. They will love it… 😀

  22. Linkin Rowed

    July 21, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    The “six-cylinder E-Cat” is back!

    July 21, 2016 at 3:56 AM
    in the legal trial there is a reference to a “six cylinder ECat” that is a new name.
    If that doesn’t hurt the trial, could you explain what is that?
    Thanks, Gherardo

    Andrea Rossi
    July 21, 2016 at 6:31 AM
    The six cylinders E-Cat is a prototype made by means of 6 Hot Cats.
    Warm Regards,

    In-line six or V-six? What will that delusional lunatic Rossi think of next, a W-16 Bugatti Veyron E-Cat?

    And the IH knuckleheads actually bought this! How gullible and ignorant can people be??

    Rossi’s E-Cat farce is a constant source of laughs.

    • Pweet

      July 22, 2016 at 3:33 am

      Well the fact is, when it’s all a load of horse feathers, it can be as many or as few cylinders as he likes. It’s a bit strange though because all the earlier talk has been that it is the same old low- temperature ecat technology as the original 1MW plant. But again, if he’s making it up as he goes it can be whatever technology he likes, and it can change whenever he likes.
      I suppose to make it consistent with the ‘ash’ sample he had in his pocket at the time, it will have to be a hot cat. The excrement is totally different you know, because the old ecat turned nickel into copper, and there’s no copper in the latest ash sample. Ok then, hot cat it is, until next week when it might turn out to be ash from a QuackEcat.

  23. tony2

    July 21, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    That rising, falling, warbling sound that you hear is the simultaneous activation of every BS detector within a 10 mile radius of Il Douche.

    “Andrea Rossi
    July 21, 2016 at 8:57 AM
    Dr Joseph Fine:
    The work is going on well and still promising.
    We are testing different operational conditions.
    The QuarkX is producing electricity, heat and light.
    I cannot still schedule a calendar.
    Warm Regards,


  24. Linkin Rowed

    July 22, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    The daily laugh from my favorite delusional lunatic:

    July 22, 2016 at 1:57 AM
    Dear Andrea:
    After the decision of the Court on the notion [sic] to dismiss it seems to most of us that a settlement could be the best solution. What do you think ?

    Andrea Rossi
    July 22, 2016 at 6:15 AM
    I am a scientist and an industrialist, my time is necessary to make jobs, clean and economically convenient energy, a foundation to help the needs of children who have cancer, therefore all that counts to me are results and facts, not chatters.
    The matter of the fact is that to make a settlement it takes two parties.
    War is the logic continuation of a relationship when other means are no more possible ( Von Clausevitz ) : symmetrically, diplomacy is the logic continuation of war when other means return to be possible.
    I absolutely do not like war, but if I have to do it, I do. Unfortunately, in this world freedom is not for free.
    Warm Regards,

    Again with “a foundation to help the needs of children who have cancer.” Why doesn’t he just sell his beach condos and give them the money?? Better yet, maybe he could use the money to get poor Butt Sniffer a brain transplant.

    “I am a scientist and an industrialist…” Yeah, right. He’s a loon and a convicted felon. If anyone should know that “freedom is not for free,” it would be an old ex-con.

  25. ts

    July 22, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    With half the counts dismissed before discovery, it’s possible the Ecat people’s case is seen as a little on the weak side.

  26. Alexvs

    July 22, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    No matter how long I am absent from E-Cat related sites. Rossi is always Rossi. I have lernt that the new 100W marvel has the size of a needle and Rossi insist upon helping to cure children with cancer. (For adults there is no hope).

    I could not refrain to write in JONP

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    July 22, 2016 at 11:01 AM
    Dear Mr. Rossi

    Your recurrent appeal to treatment of children with cancer is demagogic and unfair, to say the least. Better if you keep focused in delivering working E-Cats.

    Bitter regards.

    • JKW

      July 23, 2016 at 3:03 am

      I have a feeling that your comment will be awaiting moderation until cats quack, errr.. quark, Alexvs.

      • Alexvs

        July 23, 2016 at 7:47 am

        You are right, my comment vanished. Instead, an opportune post from Mr. Curto suggesting how to spend efficiently the money dedicated to cancer research. He,he.

      • Alexvs

        July 23, 2016 at 7:47 am

        You are right, my comment vanished. Instead, an opportune post from Mr. Curto suggesting how to spend efficiently the money dedicated to cancer research. He,he.

  27. MaxS

    July 23, 2016 at 11:11 am

    Isotope analysis of another mystery sample:
    In the pdf metadata, name of author is shown as “Bo Höistad”
    He and his colleagues refrained from ever replying to the critic on Lugano. But in silence they are still active…..
    Why does Prof Hoistad leak this through obscure websites, without putting his name and experimental details on it?
    Is he now a part of the Rossi scam conspiracy?
    Is Prof H. perhaps engineer48?

    And here comes the joke of the day:
    bachcole stating on the Ni62 enriched sample: “Faking it would be easy”