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Better Zurich eCat Video

September 10, 2012

If, like me, you struggled to hear the Zurich live feed over the weekend, you will thank Sterling Allan for the following videos. There are two but I will only embed one in fairness to Sterling and to encourage you to visit his site. Even though I watched the whole thing on both days, I found the quality of this version outshines that of the live stream and I caught some interesting detail here. It struck me how often Rossi mentioned that the hotcat tests are ongoing and unproven as yet. It may be projection on my part but, did he have something on his mind at the time in this regard? When asked why Magnus Holmes was not present, Rossi said that he was otherwise busy but was there in spirit (or words to that effect).

Some of the highlights are as follows. Please note that I often paraphrase and be warned that my interpretation may be wrong. If something is important to you, check for yourself (and correct me in comments if required). Lengthy as it is, I advise you to watch the complete thing if you have the time and inclination. At the end, Sterling does a paparazzi stalk on Rossi. This was entertaining and led to a surprise answer right at the end as the Italian was getting into his taxi (1.21.00).

Q from audience members and A from Rossi.

Q – Would AR please run a workshop to allow us to run the 10KW eCat for at least 10 days to help us convince customers and investors?

A – Not 10 days but we have already reports for three months and six months which we will release soon.

Q – What is the ratio of Ni to Cu conversion?

A – Although we get this happening we are no longer certain it is the main process but a side effect of the 10-100KeV Gammas that are emitted.

Q (40mins) – Is there any … for you to go ahead?

A – I am not strong and not intelligent – it is all down to God

Q (42.15) – Why is Magnus Holmes not here?

A – He had some important meetings in Stockholm and excuses himself. All his content was in my presentation. I am sure his heart was here.

Q (43.45) – When will 1MW certifications be granted?

A – Already have safety certs for industrial plants but not domestic. Industry is easier because they have procedures etc to ensure proper use and conformation to liabilities. But for domestic… someone drunk in house can cause problems… Will be long time with good stats in industry before get safety certs for domestic.

Q – (46.05) When gas eCat safety certs

A – It should be no problem…

Q – (49.00) Any future problem with nuclear authorities regarding safety certs?

A – No. We got the safety cert because we could give guarantees that we do not use radioactive materials, produce radiative materials and no radiation is emitted outside the device during operation. Yes, we produce radiations to make heat but also microwave ovens do this. Laws already exist for their regulation and the microwave radiations are in the same range as ours. .. blah, blah, phones etc. Cert says we do not use radioactive materials or produce then…etc. Therefore they enter into the same category as the devices in your house, your pocket etc… think television – to have command of television [remote].

Q – (52.30) Where has certification taken place. Is it in Europe and is it CE or E Cert?

A –  Swiss company, SGS.  Valid for all Europe. Allows us to put CE mark on our industrial products.  This is a safety certification.  It is a voluntary certification. The law does not impose a safety certification.  By European laws you can also take the safety liabilities by yourself. You are not bound by law to make a safety cert by the likes of SGS or UL etc. You can put the CE mark by yourself. But doing it this way it is difficult to get authorization. Industrial plants must also get permissions from local authorities. If you want you can go to an Internationally recognized cert company and request a safety cert from them on a voluntary basis. We changed the design to conform to their suggestions. We learned from them. They made a myriad of modifications. We had to also take our liabilities because they say: “I certify you, if what you say is true.”  “I certify you if you fix what we say.” “If you say something that is not true and make something different from what I say, then… well.” We also changed the instruction manual on their advice. They made it in our favour.

Q (49.05) Is the 1MW plant already running some months?

A 1MW is running very well in a military concern. A civil plant we are ready to deliver has been used just to check it. Soon it will be delivered and after 2 or 3 months of consolidated operation it will be visitable.

Q (59) The COP seems low in HotCat…

A – The COP we quoted is a minimum after taking all the conservative calculations. We aim to have at least a 6 COP. The most important thing for the professors and the military engineer is not the COP but the position of the dot in the Ragon graph. Is it a nuclear effect? Can we rule out chemical? When we reach 1050 Celsius we will be able to operate in self-sustain for 50% of the time. (then talks about thermal camera etc in hotcat).

Q (1.21.00) What do you say to those who want to invest?

A – Don’t do it. We are  still developing the technology. We need to sell our 1MW plants and keep developing until ready. When our plants have been in operation for a long time that will be when to invest and not before.

Other video and more at PESN


[Note new post. Rossi gives his account of HotCat ‘mismeasurement’]

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18 Responses to Better Zurich eCat Video

  1. Jonathan

    September 11, 2012 at 3:14 am

    I sure wish Rossi would have availed himself of an English translator. He clearly thinks his English is excellent, but as a native speaker myself… I think it’s atrocious. I have to spend so much time parsing the sounds he makes to turn them into words in my head that I can’t focus on the actual content of what he’s saying.

  2. Michelangelo

    September 11, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Yes, right dear Johnatan. INfact is same problem for italian listners when you speak poefect english!

    • Bob

      September 11, 2012 at 2:35 pm

      How right your are! I am an American and have to admit how presumptuous many often are. I went to Germany awhile back and was very impressed at high percentage of people who spoke English. (Often quite well) If a German should come to the US, how many people would he find speaking German? Almost none! If an Italian is making a presentation, then it is up to me to either learn Italian or obtain the translator. (Not talking about residency issues here)

      No doubt, overall, the peoples of Europe are far, far more language capable than Americans! 🙂

  3. Lars (AfreeAfrica.Org)

    September 11, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    We would like to get in contact with the person at the Zurich conference on the right in the panel, who mentions his interest for use of the e-cat in Africa and countries.

    Who is this Gentle man please?

    • Francesco CH

      September 11, 2012 at 10:17 pm

      You mean the one with the white beard and the glasses, right?

      He is William Donovan, Chief Technical Advisor, E-Cat-Australia, USA.

      Bill Donovan is working on many possible applications of the E-Cat technology for 3rd world countries, and not only 3rd world countries, like desalinisation of water by the E-Cat.

      Rossi has many times expressed his will to help children, expecially in the poorest countries, and one of the most obvious way to do it is by keeping part of the production for charity. Imagine a future where one million E-Cats are produced per year. Keeping just the 1 or 2 per cent of this production for charity means that at least 10000 E-Cats would be gratuitously disposable for charity. I remember that months ago Rossi was searching something to help him about this issue of children & charity

  4. HeinzG

    September 11, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    I like to come back to the statements Rossi gave on the certification matter.
    Im working in a German safety authority and I am involved in the licencing of nuclear fuel.
    To my understanding, but may be I am wrong, no European safety organisation will accept a nuclear device in a public area including companies even it generates only tiny amounts of radiation. The first you need is the establishment of a so called controle area were such a device is to be placed. So I am realy surprised by the Rossi’s statements. It would be nice to hear from others about this.

    • Francesco CH

      September 11, 2012 at 6:25 pm

      It is not a “nuclear device”.

      • Thicket

        September 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm

        Maybe Rossi should change the name of ‘Journal of Nuclear Physics’.

        • Al Potenza

          September 11, 2012 at 8:39 pm

          To “The Journal of UNCLEAR Physics”?

          • Francesco CH

            September 11, 2012 at 10:23 pm

            It is not a “nuclear device”.

          • Ivy Matt

            September 12, 2012 at 1:02 pm

            Then it’s not a LENR device.

          • Francesco CH

            September 12, 2012 at 5:32 pm

            Until an accepted definition for LENR will be established by the scientify community, “LERN device” is a meaningless definition.

          • Thicket

            September 12, 2012 at 5:59 pm


            For once we agree. Originally, the definition of LENR was clear. It meant cold fusion. Cold fusion had the reputation of being pathological science, so researchers needed a less stigmatized name. They chose LENR.

            It’s similar to perpetual motion. After a few centuries, perpetual motion was recognized as bogus. A new name was needed. The term ‘Free Energy’ was adopted.

            Over the years, the term LENR has morphed into… well… I’m not exactly sure what it’s morphed into. There is no current consensus that it means cold fusion. There isn’t any consensus at all on the term LENR, including whether it’s a nuclear effect. It’s ironic that the LENR acronym includes the word nuclear.

            If and when LENR is shown to be a meaningful, verifiable and repeatable phenomena, then there will be consensus.

  5. Adam

    September 11, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    Will you all please stay on topic and relax on Rossi’s grammar? I too am a native speaker (U.S.) and can understand him just fine. Stop being so picky and open your mind a bit. Not sure what it is about people and their demands of perfect grammar all the time.

  6. Lars (AfreeAfrica.Org)

    September 12, 2012 at 1:04 am

    Dear Francesco!

    Thank you very much for your quick and thorough response on the 3. world issue.
    The one speaking at 37 is not William(with the glasses and beard), but a guy to the right of him.

    Is that Bill?

    • Jami

      September 12, 2012 at 2:09 pm

      That is Roger Green – and I wouldn’t trust him with the lives of African children any further than I could throw him.

    • Francesco CH

      September 12, 2012 at 5:43 pm

      So the one with the Australian accent, right?

      It should indeed be Roger Green.

  7. Rodney

    September 12, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    If it is accurate isn’t the following remark of Rossi’s a bit ominous?

    “Will be long time with good stats in industry before get safety certs for domestic.”

    What exactly does he have in mind when he says “long time”?

    I recall that the domestic units were originally supposed to be available for sale in the final quarter of 2011.