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Defkalion Video

January 30, 2012

A video from Defkalion. This appears to be the bare Hyperion at the centre of the company’s invite to testers. I can’t watch it now (poor signal) and so I await comments.

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172 Responses to Defkalion Video

  1. georgehants

    January 31, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    Well up to now not a single irrational skeptic has been willing or able to answer clearly simple questions.
    If there are any psychologists watching I have done the work for you, you just have to polish it up and add a few numbers and your doctorate is assured, unless your adviser is an irrational skeptic in which case it will be ignored and you will fail.

  2. georgehants

    January 31, 2012 at 2:12 pm

    To make it clear as this is an important scientific discovery that has been obvious for a very long time.
    An irrational denier is incapable of answering a simple logical question and will go to any lengths to avoid doing so.
    Unless somebody can cite earlier records of this observation I claim it’s discovery.
    Thank you very much.

  3. georgehants

    January 31, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    John Milstone, well you have shown some balls and agreed that no evidence up to now excludes the possibility of a working device as claimed.
    Then any abuse and denial is irrational other than as meaningless opinion.
    Only observation and waiting for new evidence makes any sense.
    When Rossi or Defkalion feel the time is right as with CERN’s experiments with FTL they will prove their case or be revealed as the fraud or in error that they are.
    Any prejudgement as with UFO’s is irrational and childish.

    • John Milstone

      January 31, 2012 at 3:30 pm

      John Milstone, well you have shown some balls and agreed that no evidence up to now excludes the possibility of a working device as claimed.

      It’s impossible to prove a negative. I can’t prove the Santa Claus doesn’t exist. But I don’t lose any sleep worrying about it.

      If Rossi is legitimate, he can allow independent testing of his gadget. He can also produce a legitimate customer who confirms that his gadget works.

      As long as he refuses to do either of these things (even though he promised to do both last year), the most reasonable conclusion is that he’s a con man trying to convince gullible investors to give him money.

      • georgehants

        January 31, 2012 at 3:34 pm

        John Milstone, you are correct so any abuse and denial before the final evidence is in is irrational.
        Wait for the evidence and if it then proves a scam, that is the time to let ones primeval reactions loose if one must.

        • John Milstone

          January 31, 2012 at 3:43 pm

          John Milstone, you are correct so any abuse and denial before the final evidence is in is irrational.

          What is irrational is to ignore all the numerous failed promises and lies by Rossi.

          Part of the problem is that there is a tradition of trusting science researchers, and that is being given, unfairly, to Rossi.

          Honest researchers do two things to justify trust. They provide all their data, and the allow others to replicate their experiments. Rossi has done neither, so he doesn’t deserve the courtesy normally given to researchers.

          Prove to me that Santa doesn’t exist (or do you still believe in Santa?), and then I’ll prove that Rossi is a fraud.

          • dsm

            February 1, 2012 at 9:20 pm

            George very deftly and politely pointed out the folly of any emotional reaction or abuse prior to a final proof.

            What I see is a disturbingly large number of people who get emotional and angry that their understandable curiosity is not being satiated exactly to their liking or speed.

            Suddenly, every word, every gesture every sneeze of a man like Rossi, triggers a flood of emotion and at times irrational debate.

            One doesn’t need to much intellect to understand that Rossi isn’t god nor the devil. Or that he has made world changing claims re his eCat or that he has major issues with competitors out to steal every thing they can (perhaps Defkalion has already succeeded here).

            The fact that he doesn’t pander to your obsession with his claims, at the rate you demand, is no reason to go on the attack without any credible evidence other than he isn’t making you happy !!!.

            DSM

  4. JNewman

    January 31, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    Nobody is answering your simple logical questions because they are not simple logical questions.

    “Do you believe that the evidence for UFO’s warrants further professional open-minded research?” is not a question of logic, it is a question about observed facts. And therefore, an answer cannot be illogical.

    Now continue your ad hominem attacks.

  5. georgehants

    January 31, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    As my second observation of the day—
    Science and all society is making an important mistake in not differentiating between opinion and fact.
    Unless somebody can show an earlier observation that science is being destroyed by experts, administrators, scientists who are not aware that, opinion has nothing to do with fact and the two must on every occasion be kept poles apart, then I claim it as another vitally important maxim of research.
    Nobody must be able to give an opinion as if it is fact no matter how “qualified” they are.

  6. pvarrone

    February 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm

    In Italia si dice: meglio fare invidia (noi) che pietà (voi).

  7. Stephen

    February 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Where the heck did they perform this test? In a garage? Apple-style? 🙂 As usual it’s all so weird… looks like somebody is ready to come out and say “smile, you’re on candid camera”