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eCat Ready To Pounce

October 27, 2011

Updated Throughout The Day

WOW!

From Sterling Allan: (In attendance)

October 28, 2011

Q&A just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.

SilverThunder 11:07, 28 October 2011 (PDT)

 

After the above is verified, the big question still stands and will determine how big a reaction this news gets – Who is the customer?

Right now, you’ve just got to love it. Bravo, Andrea Rossi!

It Begins:

Andrea Rossi
October 27th, 2011 at 9:03 AM
Dear RockEye:
Thank you: now it’s 4 p.m. of the 27th, and we are finishing the cosmetics of the plant. I think tomorrow we will make, with the help of God, a good job. My work, basically, is finished. Within one hour the Consultants of the Customer will arrive to start the check of all the parts of the plant and prepare all their stuff for the test of tomorrow. Until some hour ago I felt a strong pressure, now, at the eve of the battle, as usual, I am recovering all my coldness and calm. We are ready.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

[With thanks to Arian] [Copied to top of the post for emphasis]

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Daniele Passerini, blogger and friend to Professor Levi, will tweet from the demo today. I doubt he will be able to impart critical information but, hungry for a fix, eCat junkies might find the feed entertaining. We will monitor the web and post interesting details here along with any useful links we find. Thanks to everyone commenting. The quality is high and your input is both invaluable and pretty damn cool.

According to Sterling Allan at Peswiki, AP will be at the demo. Along with Daniele, Sterling is one of the lucky few on the spot. He will be tweeting, too.

From The American Reporter (with thanks to Beaker)

‘Today may be the beginning of the end for the world’s oil companies if a million-watt device being demonstrated for a customer at the University of Bologna this morning proves to work as advertised. It is the cold fusion “E Cat” reactor developed by Italian scientist Andrea Rossi and could utterly eliminate the need for fossil fuels. The AP’s chief Science writer has flown from New York to Italy to report on the demonstration, so look for news early this afternoon (9:33am ET – the test has just started in Bologna, which is 6 hours ahead of New York)’

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Forbes publishes a new article. For much of the piece, the journalist, Mark P Mills, makes a reasonable point: that the energy infrastructure is so large and embedded that even IF Rossi is a success, change will be slow. That is a discussion for another day – in an earlier prediction, I gave it 7 years for mass worldwide adoption while a successful eCat’s impact will be felt quickly in the markets and alternative energy fields.

Looking at his previous articles, he seems to be emotionally vested in oil and its kin. Here, he makes that obvious:

…The holy grail of any alternative to oil is to find, produce or invent a “drop-in” replacement molecule with the same properties as oil…

Not sure if he’s going for light-hearted or condescension here:

…Still, you gotta love the Italians.  Maybe they, the home of Marconi, Maserati and Fermi, will pull it off.  Italy is the home of elegant engineering, from the pavement rippling Ferrari, to Fiat’s record-setting elegantly efficient new mass-market four-stroke engine. As a physicist (with some Italian roots – thanks Mom), I’m rooting for them…

Ah, now I’m sure:

…“In the future, scientists will learn how to convert stupidity into clean fuel.”…

Shame, that this article is on the front page of Forbes.com. Having said that, Rossi will succeed or not on his own merits and this sort of stuff will not matter if he pulls it off. It does give some credence to his determination to prove himself in a spectacular fashion. Apparently AP has an exclusive on the demo today. It seems as though AR has been turning journalists away but AP has gained his trust. To be fair, they are so big, word will spread fast if the 1MW plant shows promise.

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 Wired UK has a more balanced piece, pitching the likes of Krivit against Bob Higgins of Motorola Solutions. It puts both sides of the argument and concludes with the following:

 

Cheap fusion power would transform economies, and con-artists play on the dream of free energy. But fraudsters usually keep asking for a bit more money to complete their invention and keep delaying the actual proof. It would be a very bold fraudster who offered to let a customer test their magic energy-maker for themselves before getting hold of the money. And fooling people with a few hidden batteries is one thing; faking a one-megawatt power plant under close scrutiny would surely be impossible.

Or would it?

Rossi says that today the experimental results will be updated hour-by-hour, with a full report and video at midnight. Will it be a triumphant success, or an abject failure? Or will there be endless squabbling about measurements and standards, allegations of cheating or sabotage?

We’ll know by the weekend.

 

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Andrea Rossi
October 28th, 2011 at 10:37 AM

FIRST INFORMATION REGARDING THE 1 MW PLANT TEST:
WE SARTED REGULARLY THE TEST THIS MORNING . EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL SO FAR. THE 1 MW E-CAT IS WORKING IN SELF SUSTAINING.
TONIGHT I WILL PUBLISH THE NON SECRET REPORT THAT THE CUSTOMER WILL RELEASE.
WARM REGARDS, I HAVE TO RETURN TO THE PLANT. SORRY, I CANNOT ANSWER TO THE MANY COMMENTS I AM RECEIVING. I WILL PUBLISH THEM PROBABLY I WILL NEVER FIND THE TIME TO ANSWER.
WARMEST REGARDS TO ALL,
ANDREA ROSSI

[Thanks to Arian]

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WOW!

From Sterling Allan: (In attendance)

October 28, 2011

Q&A just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.

SilverThunder 11:07, 28 October 2011 (PDT)

 

After the above is verified, the big question still stands and will determine how big a reaction this news gets – Who is the customer?

Right now, you’ve just got to love it. Bravo, Andrea Rossi!

[With thanks to Az]

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250 Responses to eCat Ready To Pounce

  1. Peter Roe

    October 28, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Sojourner Soo posted a link to Rothwell’s comments a little earlier, but not the text. It is rather curious that Rothwell now seems almost as anxious as the trolls to find reasons to claim that nothing significant has happened today.

  2. Az

    October 28, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:October_28%2C_2011_Test_of_the_One_Megawatt_E-Cat

    1MW plant test: full report coming soon.

    –Francesco 12:39, 28 October 2011 (PDT)

  3. Sojourner Soo

    October 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    It looks like the dementors are back.

    • Peter Roe

      October 28, 2011 at 8:59 pm

      Yes – in some force. What on earth is the point…

      • Sojourner Soo

        October 28, 2011 at 9:10 pm

        There is no point, except to make us feel demented, which is their sole reason for existence, it seems. BBL for the report and AP press release.

        • Peter Roe

          October 28, 2011 at 9:15 pm

          The show seems to be over but the fat lady has not sung (nothing on the AP site as yet).

        • Peter Roe

          October 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm

          One paranoid little thought enters my pointy little head (could be the beer!): what if AP insisted on exclusivity in the mainstream media so that they could ‘modify’ or even suppress today’s news on behalf of another party or parties?

          I hope we see an unbiased report of the facts on the AP newswires within say 12 hours at the most.

  4. Az

    October 28, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53758.html

    Akira Shirakawa
    Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:53:57 -0700

    Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user (who appears to be truthful), translated in English by me. I think he mistook kW and MW with kWh and MWh:

    * * *

    I’m back from Via dell’Elettricista [Rossi’s factory location in Bologna]. What Sterling Allan says is what Rossi said during the “press conference”, so it’s the truth, for what it’s worth.

    I can confirm that steam couldn’t be seen as it was being condensed. Measurements should have been done by a certain engineer Fioravanti (I believe on behalf of the “very important customer”).

    Not everything went well (the usual [leaking] gaskets, the self-sustaining reaction that was in danger of runaway, etc), but 470kWh (even if not 1 MWh) without input power (excluding that of water pumps) couldn’t leave room for doubts.

    Rossi will send a report (written by the customer’s consultants) to the attendees, but he’s already read it aloud entirely during the press conference in both Italian/English versions.

    There were many Swedes.

    Stremmenos, Levi, Ferrari were quite serene and attentive. Anyhow, either everybody made arrangements [to fake a succesful test] or it’s all true.

    * * *

    Cheers,
    S.A.

    • daniel maris

      October 28, 2011 at 11:24 pm

      SA – Thanks for that report.

      I am very encouraged that not everything went well! It would be far more suspicious if everything ran perfectly.

      If there really is this problem over runaway reaction, then it’s good to know they are trying to ride a tiger.

  5. TomAndersen

    October 28, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_Fioravanti_(engineer)

    That Fioravanti … one would think, as Ferrari is also listed.

    • Ivan Mohorovicic

      October 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm

      Nothing to do with cars.
      Reportedly, professors Flavio Fioravanti (although the user who mentioned that on 22passi isn’t sure on the name) and Loris Ferrari from the University of Bologna were present during the test.

  6. Renzo

    October 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    hi all, I m in florence now and I have been unable to follow the test untill now. I m happy that all is going well. There is an interesting comment from an user on Passerini blog “From what Rossi said the customer is satisfied, they have found an agreement and the reactor-s development will continue in the customer s laboratories in order to make it reliable and ready for the market, at least this is what I understood”

  7. Roger Barker

    October 28, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Well, not too surprising. No real information came out of this demo … again.

    If this is real the only credible thing now is for the customer to come forward and make some announcements. If it is a known company then this will help Rossi’s case.

    • Shane D.

      October 28, 2011 at 10:39 pm

      Roger,

      It seems a bit too soon to say that, don’t you think?

      I think for weeks now it’s been accepted that the “customer” will release the hard data if they so wish. Thats not to say that there won’t be some sketchy preliminary info made public, which it sounds we’ll soon (tonight) get from Rossi.

      But, it appears the customer has decided to buy and commercialize the technology. At this point I would think it foolish of them to give away trade secrets by doing a massive data dump.

      I’m very encouraged by what I’ve read so far. It all seems to be in line with what we earlier determined to be indications that all went well.

    • Tony

      October 28, 2011 at 11:50 pm

      Again, nothing at all. No input measurements. No idea who is doing the test. No idea of the mysterious customer. The only thing we have is that Rossi says he has 470 KW output in self-sustain mode. No proof whatsoever.

      This test is even more uselesss that the 10-6 debacle. Surely you all see this?

      Tony2

  8. Az

    October 28, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Here’s an excerpt from Rossi’s report on today’s results http://youtu.be/7sZHOQ6P-Rw . I hope to have a story up at PESN by 1 am Italy {+1GMT}
    4 minutes ago

  9. Az

    October 28, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Here’s a video of today’s 1 MW E-Cat while being tested. Video starts and ends with radiators http://youtu.be/uFiJb2UhzqY

  10. Roger Barker

    October 28, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    This thread says there are over 200 posts but I only see around 20 …

    • John Dlouhy

      October 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm

      click on “older comments” at the top of the thread

  11. Az

    October 28, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    #
    david
    October 28th, 2011 at 4:16 PM

    Report of the test of the 1MW E-cat made on the October 28 in Bologna

    http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk

  12. Peter Roe

    October 29, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Thanks Az.

    So the reactor *was* run as a steam generator after all (I had expected oil cooling and eat crow accordingly). Another surprise – there were 107 modules, each nominally rated at 10 kW. Total test duration: 09:00 to 23:00

    Measured by the customer: 66 kWh in during startup, 2635 kWh out *during self sustaining operation* 12:30 to 18:00. COP calculated by the test engineer of 2635 (presumably 1 kW was consumed by controls and ‘frequency generator’). NO radiation above background observed.

    • Peter Roe

      October 29, 2011 at 9:17 am

      Correction: 1 kWh consumed by controls etc. Mustn’t give the trolls anything to jump on.

      • Peter Roe

        October 29, 2011 at 9:57 am

        Further correction: On re-reading the test report it is unclear to me exactly what power inputs and outputs were being measured, i.e. over what exact periods during operation.

        The 66 kWh in was measured from 12:30 when the reactor was started until 18:00 when it was shut down. The output of 2635 kWh was measured over the same period.

        It is not stated exactly when the reactor entered self sustaining mode, or even if it actually ever did, but from the steam output graph in the spreadsheet the unit appears to show a stable output level being achieved at around 13:30.

        The test engineers calculated COP of 2635 is little curious. If the output of 2635 kWh was only measured during unpowered self-sustaining operation then the ratio of O:2635 gives an infinite COP. If however the total test ratio is used then the COP would be 2635/66 = 40. Either way, if the base data is correct, ‘cold fusion’ power is now reality.

      • Peter Roe

        October 29, 2011 at 10:13 am

        If Rossi’s statement that an output of 470 kW was achieved during self sustaining mode, then a total measured o/p of 2635 kWh indicates self sustained operation for a little over five and a half hours (assuming this figure was maintained fairly steadily). If that is the case, the reactor must have running without input power from 12:30 until 18:00, i.e., from when the steam graph shows maximum output at around this time. The output does not stabilise until an hour after this point.

  13. Peter Roe

    October 29, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Yet nothing on the mornings ‘mainstream’ news (BBC) and nothing on the Associated Press site (www.ap.org). How long does it take in an electronic age to post what is probably the greatest story since newsprint was invented? Has anyone seen a report, even a tentative one, in ANY mainstream news channel, anywhere in the world?

  14. Bernarda Lindline

    October 31, 2011 at 8:18 am

    I do believe all the ideas you’ve introduced in your post. They are really convincing and can certainly work. Still, the posts are too brief for starters. May you please prolong them a little from subsequent time? Thanks for the post.